Citizen Hearings & UFO Disclosure

Citizen Hearings Disclosure Panel Members

Citizen Hearings Disclosure Panel Members

  • For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. (Ephesians 6:12)


Monday, April 29, 2013 thru Friday, May 3, 2013, the National Press Club in Washington, DC,  sponsored a hearing of  explosive information on the worldwide phenomena of UFO’s.

The panel members listed are an array of distinguished and retired members of Congress and the House of Representatives of the United States:

Congressman, Representative,   Merrill Cook (Republican/Utah)

Congresswoman/Representative, Darlene Hooley (Democrat/Oregon)

Congresswoman Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (Democrat/Michigan)

Congressman Roscoe G. Bartlett (Republican/Maryland)

Senator Mike Gravel (Libertarian/Democrat/Alaska)

The expert witnesses who testified are no less experts in their fields of investigative research, physicists, analysts, ex-fighter pilots from the United States, China, and South America:

Stephen Bassett,  Sgt. John Burroughs (USAF, retired),  John Callahan, Alejandro Chionetti (Argentina),  Dr. Anthony Cho (Peru), Peter Davenport, Richard Dolan, Capt. Bruce Fenstermacher (USAF, retired), Major George Filer III (USAF, retired), Patrick Frascogna, JD, Lt. Col. Richard French (USAF, retired), Stephen M. Greer, MD., Paul Hellyer (Canada), Gary Heseltine (UK), Antonio Huneeus, Roger Leir, DPM, Dr. Jesse Marcel, Jr., MD, Denise Marcel, Jesse Marcel III, Dr. Edgar Mitchell, (NASA, Capt. USN, retired), Sgt. Jim Penniston (USAF, retired), Roberto Pinotti (Italy), Nick Pope (UK), Capt. Kevin Randle (USAF, retired), Col. Ariel Sanchez (Uruguay), Capt. Robert Salas (USAF, retired), Col. Oscar Santa-Maria (Col. Retired/Peru), Capt. David Shindele (USAF, retired), Sgt. David C. Scott (USAF, retired), Daniel Sheehan, JD, Dr. Sun Shili (People’s Republic of China)

Researcher: Canadian & US citizen Stanton Friedman

Researcher: Donald Schmidt

Researcher: Linda Moulton Howe

Researcher: Grant Cameron (Canada)

Researcher:  *Dr. Robert Wood, PhD

     *Dr. Wood’s Son’s website validates  leaked U.S. government documents that can be reviewed:

Majestic Documents Evidence That We Are Not Alone

Listening to their testimonies just had my head reeling.

This cloak and dagger scenario involves murder and deception from the highest levels of our government which sounds something out of a mystery novel if it weren’t for the fact that some of these witnesses are alive and some witnesses have death-bed confessions on video tape, one of which is included in this post, who saw, heard, and experienced for themselves the presence of reptilian, grey bodies of aliens from another world from the 1947 Roswell incident.

The information is too much for me to list. The technology is “out of the world,” literally.  Technology which is so advanced that it takes experts to explain zero energy, quantum physics (getting from point A to point B in a nano micro second), number of known solar systems, wormwood, etc.

One expert, a top fighter pilot from South America, had military government instructions to shoot down a UFO aircraft, testified to his  inability to bring down a flying saucer through conventional weaponry while the flying object zig zagged alongside him because their country’s airspace had been violated.

Even the Vatican is interested in the extra terrestrial as testified by Daniel Sheehan, former Jesuit legal counsel to the Vatican.

There is a new book by Chris Putnam and Tom Horne called ExoVaticana exposing the Vatican’s interest and practices in the supernatural who is embracing these extra terrestrial.

The reality of Projects Magnet (from Canada)  and Blue Book, including the government leaked documents from the Majestic Twelve  from the United States were validated and discussed.

Alien bases in the United States and the moon were discussed.  The practice of  “uploading and downloading” information from an alien into a human being and the alien extracting the human being’s memory is also disclosed. This is a form of what is being described as an ESP experience. (Personally, I call it demon possession.)

I recommend everyone reading this article to go into the Citizen Hearings archives and listen for yourselves.

“For organizer Stephen Bassett the hearings aim to stimulate the U.S. Congress to investigate the issue of UFOs, and whether they are alien in origin. The ultimate goal for Bassett is to pressure the executive branch of the US government to disclose what they know about UFOs, extraterrestrial life and technology, and lift what he calls the “government truth embargo.” (source: ExoNews)



If anyone is unfamiliar with the First, Second, and Third Heavens teachings, learn it because it’s helpful to understand how these alien beings are able to move about inter-dimensionally between them, ultimately affecting man.

In fact, the Nephilim (the fallen angels) who co-mingled with human women created  the giants of the earth as seen in Genesis 6:4–remember the giant Goliath who fought David?

  • There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. (Genesis 6:4)

That’s why God had to cause the great flood that covered the earth.  It was because man had co-mingled with the fallen angels thereby polluting and corrupting humanity.

Only Noah’s family survives because Noah walked with God and his family did not co-mingle with the fallen angels.

It’s a prophecy that as the days of Noah were, so also will be the coming of the Son of Man be (Matthew 24:27).

These are the end of times and it’s unfolding directly before my eyes!  The disclosure of the UFO’s (the fallen angels) will open a formal chapter and the next thing is the co-mingling of man with them creating a hybrid.  That’s not God’s plan for man.

It’s not my story, it’s Gods!  Is your household ready to be saved?  Have you created your arc of safety in Jesus Christ?

I can’t believe for you.  I can only present to you “evidence” as events are unfolding.

  • By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith. (Hebrews 11:7)



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2 thoughts on “Citizen Hearings & UFO Disclosure

  1. In regard to your recent commentary about Robert Salas’ testimony, you should probably be aware of a couple very salient points.

    1. Robert Salas has never witnessed a UFO — not even he makes that claim.

    2. Robert Salas is as proven liar and a fraud; this has been repeatedly affirmed by the very same men he has repeatedly used to confirm his egregious lies and repeated slanders.

    Concerning the comments you published regarding UFO interference with ICBM sites at Malmstrom AFB in March 1967, I’d like to correct for you a few misconceptions Robert Salas seems to be so obsessed with. This apparently stems, for the most part, from his refusal to accept the claims of the only two people who were present at Echo Flight: Eric Carlson, the commander of Echo Flight, and Walt Figel, his deputy commander. Both men have repeatedly asserted that UFOs were not involved with any events at Malmstrom AFB in 1967. There’s not a word of truth to any of the claims Salas has made. Salas, author of “Faded Giant”, has been repeatedly accused of lying about and/or embellishing details of these incidents by those military veterans who served their nation well during the hottest period of the Vietnam War and the coldest of the Cold War.

    If you wish to know exactly what happened in 1967, why the missiles at Echo Flight actually failed, and why the Oscar Flight claims are so pointless, I’d encourage you to evaluate the following narratives, all of which you can examine without cost: [this one is an examination of the issues for those unfamiliar with the case, and describes in full the gross distortion of facts that Salas has decided to sell].

    I would also recommend that you examine the numerous interviews and articles at the Reality Uncovered website: Many of the articles discuss the events at Echo Flight and Oscar Flight in March 1967, and include interviews with both the commander and the deputy commander at Echo Flight on March 16, 1967. To this day, Robert Salas insists that both men confirm his claims of UFO interference, which both men deny strongly. He refuses entirely to discuss these matters in detail or answer any questions regarding the testimonies of these two men, preferring instead to attack the integrity and credibility of those publically raising such issues. He refuses to offer anything substantial in the way of evidence, and fails entirely to explain the details of his claims or to answer any of the valid questions raised by his insistence. What he has done is rely on the craven use of blatant lies and baseless insults in regard to his critics without once managing to refute or even discuss their criticisms.

    A lot information regarding this incident can be found at the Reality Uncovered forum, in particular the Echo Flight Incident thread: Every single detail, digression, discussion or subject of argument asserted by Salas has been explained and discussed in great detail in the documents and on the websites you’ve been directed to. Not one question has been left unanswered, a statement that Salas cannot in turn honestly affirm. He is a proven liar who has created fiction and called it fact, something anyone willing to actually do the research can determine very readily for himself, as the events — contrary to the claims of Salas — have been declassified since before 1980.

    Tim Hebert, an ex-USAF missileer himself, has also written some enlightening articles regarding the case on his blog at: You should take the time to read them.

    Dr. David Clarke, for many years an accepted expert regarding the British military forces’ investigations of the UFO phenomenon, has also discussed this case in the context of the “UFO and Nukes” connection asserted by Robert Hastings and Robert Salas. You can read his article on the subject at

    The folk tales currently being spread by Salas have not merely been dismissed as one possible interpretation of their claims; they have been repeatedly dismantled and shredded — proven as lies by witness testimony and documented evidence. There is no doubt whatsoever that he created this case outright. There were no UFOs involved — it is a lie, and nothing more. Witnesses that Salas has presented to the public have actually come forward to dispute the claims he has made. They insist that their statements were taken out of context and distorted purposely in order to suggest the presence of UFOs where no such presence could otherwise be established. Salas has perpetrated a UFO hoax of the worst sort, and has attempted to destroy the reputations and career service of better men than himself.

    The commander of Echo Flight on March 16, 1967, CAPT (Ret.) Eric D. Carlson, has released the following definitive statement:

    “Let me start by stating that, as best as I can recall, my only contact with Salas and Hastings has been on the phone. I did tell Salas that he could release my name to whomever he wished, don’t know why he needed my permission. I have talked to a newspaper writer in Great Falls, several years ago, and a TV producer from one of those UFO shows. With both these individuals I denied any knowledge of any UFO’s at Malmstrom. In addition, I stated that there was no, repeat no, incident at Oscar flight as Salas maintains. The man is either lying or delusional.

    “My only contact with Hastings was a call I received from him regarding his book. I stated that his book sounded interesting and he later sent me a copy which I read and gave away …. At no time did I mention anyone’s mental status; yours, mine, his, or Salas’, although in retrospect I could comment on Salas’.

    “My memory is quite good regarding the events at Malmstrom and there is no doubt in my mind that there were no reports of UFO’s and no incident at Oscar flight. I will be willing to discuss this with anyone who is truly interested in the facts.”

    His deputy commander at Echo Flight, COL (Ret.) Walter Figel, Jr., has insisted as well that UFOs were not involved, and adds that his version of this event has been distorted by Robert Salas in order to give the impression that an actual UFO was involved. He asserts very strongly that no UFOs were involved, nor were UFOs ever reported. He has, in fact, been refreshingly open and definitive in regard to the events of March 1967, and has repeatedly confirmed all of the aspects of this story that I’ve made available and that my father, Eric Carlson, has repeatedly confirmed. It’s all just more of Salas’ pathetic nonsense.

    Walt Figel has released numerous comments regarding the incidents of March 1967, including the following definitive statement:


    “First – your dad has not lied about anything nor do believe that he is even capable of lying about anything at all. He was, is, and always will be an honorable man. You should remember that always – I will.

    “Second – Bob Salas was never associated with any shutdown of any missiles at any time in any flight and you can take that to the bank. Just think about this for a split second. He is a person wrapped up in UFOs to the Nth degree. Yet he could not remember he was not at Echo. Then he thought he was at November – wrong again. Then he thought he was at Oscar – wrong again.

    “Third – There is no record about anything happening at November or Oscar except in people’s minds that are flawed beyond imagination. Salas has created events out of the thin air and can’t get the facts straight even then. My best friend to this day was the flight commander of the 10th SMS at the time. He and I have discussed this silly assertion in the past couple of years – he thinks it is all madeup nonsense for sure. I put both Salas and Hastings in touch with him and he has told them both that an incident at November or Oscar never happened. In addition he was subsequently stationed at Norton AFB where the engineers tested the possible problems. No little green men were responsible.

    “Fourth – I have always maintained that I do not nor have I ever believed that UFOs exist in any form at any place at any time. I have never seen one or reported that I have seen one. I have always maintained that they had nothing to do with the shutdown of Echo flight in Montana.

    “Fifth – The event at Malmstrom has a hand written log from me that was turned in just like all the other logs that I wrote over several years. I would think that if I wrote something like that in the log, there would be copies, it would have been classified at the beginning and then released along with the classified SAC messages and base reports. Nothing in that urgent SAC message even hints of UFOs at all and I think that it would if the official logs or telephone calls had referenced that fact.

    “Sixth – When it happened, neither your dad nor I were “visibly shaken” by the events. It was just another day with a unexpected event in our lives. It was rather underwhelming at the time. No one rushed out to see us, no one made us sign any papers, no one interrogated us for hours on end.

    “There is no Air Force “cover-up” [of the events of March 1967]; it just did not happen the way Salas and has portrayed the course of events. I am sorry that you are all caught up in a pissing contest with these people, I really am. They are just not going to let go no matter what you say or do. He has made a 15 year career pandering about the country talking about things he has no knowledge about. I am not at all interested in taking them on – it’s not worth my effort – I have more important things to do with my life. I much rather just stay out of it.

    “Hopefully, we can move on. I did read about a briefing on the 27th here in DC. I am here in VA about 10 miles away. Interesting. Hopefully this helps you and confirms to you at least that your dad is a straight shooter and does not lie to anyone” [This statement regards the press conference Salas and Robert Hastings put together in 2010 in Washington, DC; neither Figel nor my father were invited to present their testimony — a somewhat odd development. given that Salas and Hastings both insist their testimony confirms their UFO claims].

    Robert Salas’ commander at Oscar Flight, Frederick Meiwald, insists that he doesn’t even believe in UFOs — a strange comment to make in light of Salas’ insistence that a UFO took out the missiles at Oscar Flight during an incident that resulted in an injury to one non-commissioned officer, requiring that man to be evacuated from the site by helicopter. When interviewed by researcher Robert Hastings, he stated unequivocably that he doesn’t remember anything at all about a UFO. In fact, Robert Hastings himself has written:

    “Meiwald then elaborated and said that he couldn’t support everything Salas has said about the incident because he had been resting/sleeping when the first missile or two dropped offline -— which occurred moments after Salas received a report from the Oscar Flight Security Controller about a UFO hovering over the Launch Control Facility’s front gate.

    “Although Salas had quickly told Meiwald about that telephone conversation, Meiwald says that he can’t remember it.”

    In another interview conducted by Hastings, Meiwald is equally clear:

    “RH: Okay. Now, when Bob, I think moments [after] he woke you up, or you got up and sat down at the commander’s consol—he of course had received a call from the Flight Security Controller, saying that there was a bright red, oval-shaped object hovering over the security fence gate—my understanding is that is what he told you as soon as you were at your consol, that he had received this call and, uh, that of course coincided with the missiles beginning to malfunction. Do you recall him telling you that?

    “FM: I really don’t remember that portion of it, relative to the bright object. I remember an unusual condition [but] as far as the details, uh, I can’t elaborate on that.”

    The following exchange is also revealing:

    “RH: Okay. He of course has also said that you two were, uh, when you were back at Malmstrom, you were debriefed by OSI and required to sign non-disclosure statements. Do you remember that?

    “FM: I remember being directed to do that. But that was no problem. I’ve been one of these people, when told to forget something, I forget it—eventually [inaudible].

    “RH: Right, well, is that a polite way of saying that you really don’t want to discuss this, even though you know more than you’re saying?

    “FM: No, I’m saying I don’t remember.”

    In a letter from 1996 from Meiwald to Salas, Meiwald insists that there was no debriefing by OSI and he was not required to sign non-disclosure statements in regard to any UFOs he allegedly witnessed, contrary to Salas’ testimony since 1996. He also states in that letter that what he recalls is very different from the bulk of Salas’ testimony. Meiwald has never confirmed Salas’ UFO claims, which is also contrary to Salas’ claims since 1996.

    For nearly ten years Salas also used Meiwald as a confirmation of the events at both November Flight and Oscar Flight, stating that either my father or someone else called Meiwald on March 16 and told him all about Echo Flight. When interviewed by Hastings, Meiwald stated, “Whatever happened over at Echo, I have no idea.” He has rebuffed completely all attempts by Salas to establish confirmation for the UFOs they’ve invented.

    Meiwald has also clearly stated in other interviews with Salas that only 3-4 missiles failed during the one missile failures event he has recalled. Salas insists the entire flight of ten missiles dropped offline, and again uses Meiwald as a confirmation. In addition, Meiwald has NEVER stated that the UFO story he told Salas in 1996 had anything at all to do with missile failures; it’s never even been mentioned in context.

    My father, the commander of Echo Flight in March 1967, was present when all ten missiles were taken off of strategic alert by an electronic noise pulse generated internally at the launch control facility. This pulse interfered with the normal operation of the logic coupler on the guidance and control module for that facility, causing thereby the failure of the missiles, which were, in effect, simply turned off. The incident was very well documented and was thoroughly investigated, and every word that Robert Salas has ever said on the subject has been repeatedly discounted or proven outright to be little more than lies and embellishments created for the purpose of making money from the sales of books, the sales of associated videos, and the speaking fees he and Hastings charge as a matter of course when retelling their ridiculous little folk tales.

    I’m not asking you to believe these points I’ve outlined. It isn’t necessary, as they’re already included in the public record and can be examined by anyone who’s interested in the subject. I do ask, however, that you give some further thought to claims you’ve discussed. You should be aware that there is another point of view in regard to this matter — one that has been repeatedly confirmed by those men who were actually involved with this singular event in USAF history, has been very well-documented through the years, and was very thoroughly investigated by the USAF for some months after the incident itself.

    There were only two witnesses at Echo Flight in March 1967: the commander of the flight, CAPT Eric D. Carlson, and the deputy commander, COL Walter Figel, Jr. Both men have publically affirmed that there was no UFO. Robert Salas, on the other hand, is merely an agitator — a liar and a fraud — who has repeatedly misrepresented the claims of the men involved in these incidents. He started utilizing these methods years ago, found out that it made his claims convincing to a few ignorant people, and continued this path of slander and disruption as a result of his minor and isolated successes. He is a petty con-men and a fraudulent huckster — nothing more.

    Most sincerely,
    James Carlson
    Albuquerque, NM

    • Mr. Carlson, thank you for your lengthy point of view. I made no comment re: Robert Salas in particular other than to state he was a witness on the recent panel re: UFO Citizens Disclosure hearings.

      Obviously sir you have and probably continue to have spent a considerable of time checking on Mr. Robert Salas.

      In context of the subject matter, UFO’s continue to manifest to people from around the world and many eye witnesses with personal experience have taken their time and effort to give their opinion based on their personal experience.

      I, for one, would never believe that everyone is less than truthful so I leave it up to the public to form their own opinion based on more than one person’s experience with UFO’s.



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